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  1. Jamie Marchi's Tweets were very disappointing. 

     

    I don’t think so. There are just people who would like to read into them things that are obviously not there, because there’s a case they want to make that is not supported by what is public.

     

    Here’s a post from Samantha Inoue-Harte reflecting on the internal probe, including evidence of Vic’s behavior around a Japanese guest at a con:


  2. 2 hours ago, KyoKyo said:

    What I don't understand is how this was going on for so long without anyone coming forward sooner or the issues being addressed. The anime dub industry is small and closely-knit and doesn't in any way resemble a large-scale Hollywood power structure that would protect someone like a Kevin Spacey or Harvey Weinstein. I know there were rumblings for years about how his behavior was "misrepresented" at best and he seemed to have dropped off the con circuit for a number of years. I'm not sure if its a glowing recommendation of the industry if other VAs knew that innocent people, their fans, were experiencing this and did or said nothing about it to Mignonga's team. Maybe the corporate side of Funimation wanted this downplayed. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't and we just don't know.

    There are some socially/politically vocal VAs within the dub industry that were unusually quiet up until now. I'm surprised Jamie Marchi wasn't shouting this thing from the rooftops earlier judging by how outraged she is on Twitter. 

    Who knows. Maybe I need to "take his [Vic Mignonga's] d**k out of my ears so I can hear reality" as Marchi suggests.

    This whole thing has left a sour taste in my mouth from both sides. I've unsubbed from Funimation and am going back to CR subs. As soon as I give western anime localization/adaptation a chance, this sort of thing happens.

     

     I'm curious if this will be brought up by attendees at various industry or VA panels during the upcoming convention season. 

     

    Without naming names, I'm going to paraphrase a voice actor I've heard from. Not speaking specifically about the Vic situation, if you speak up about something, you run the risk of directors and higher-ups getting antsy about casting you in the future. Suddenly, there goes your health insurance.

    But after the spreadsheet and the ANN piece, people like Monica Rial and Jamie Marchi must have judged that the cost of speaking up was now far less.

    I'm not staff at Otakon or anywhere else, but I'd put money on question screeners being more common.


  3. I mean, I hope you're right, he needs to show he's changed and it's clear he refuses to even acknowledge he did anything wrong. But I have doubts.


    Whatever he does, it won’t be in anime or video games. There are not a lot of companies that dub anime, and these people all talk to one another. Whether it’s New Generation or Bang Zoom or Studiopolis or NYAV Post and no matter who’s directing, it’s a small enough community that everybody knows who he is, that many of these people have had experiences or heard the stories. And many of these people, if they weren’t looking for an excuse to distance themselves already, likely find him too toxic to work with now.

    So he would have to relocate, since there’s not voiceover work for him in Texas. And he’d have to find his way into a union project, get Taft-Hartley’d and all that, and then hope to find a truly daft casting director.

  4. 19 minutes ago, Tachibana said:

    Vic WILL work again. There's no question in my mind. People like him have been accused of worse and bounced back into their original careers. Now, the difference here is colleagues are accusing him. So maybe he'll never work in the voiceover industry proper again. So what? He's done uncredited work on various game dubs before, he can probably continue doing that. And if not that, he used to be a youth minister. Now, as bad an idea as it might be for him to be one, given what's been put forward, I have suspicions several employers who'd hire him for the role wouldn't care so long as he stood by either "I didn't do that" or "I've changed". He could probably just go back to that. 

    And people who, for whatever reason are still fans? I don't think he'll be closing down his mailbox or his fanclub anytime soon.

    So all this is, and what people behind the #KickVic tag hoped to accomplish, is to remove him from a position where he had access to teenaged girls and women to harass them, both on VO jobs and in the con circuit. Which, I think, seems to be where we are now.

    It's just, again, a shame that his colleagues who called him out are now being harassed and threatened by either his fans or just alt-right bullies in general, but, hopefully cons can give those guests extra security until things cool down and they can stay safe at Funi and at home.

    If we were talking about a few incidents of getting too handsy, it would have been possible to take his apology seriously. But we're talking about a pattern of behavior a lot of people knew about, coupled with the alleged sexual assaults we're now learning about. There's a long list of bad men in the entertainment industry who haven't been convicted of anything, but will never work again, like John Kricfalusi and Matt Lauer. There are things people won't forget.


  5. 8 minutes ago, Something Clever said:

    the problem is there isnt a halfway its either all or nothing which is a terrible way of deciding guilt.

    He didnt rape anyone as far as we know he seems to be either a naive handsy person who doesnt get personal space.  Or a handsy pervert who knows where the line ends.

    No reason to immediately fire anyone just suspend them from employment while an investigation happens is how we should do things.  report what you find and either re hire them after x or choose not to depending on the severity of what you find but tell the friggin public.


    Look at how toxic the situation is with his fans against the non fans which is because of how the current social media court operates.


    That scorched earth policy is what breeds such toxicity and what makes stuff like this such a clusterfrick.

    No middle ground exists and that is a key problem because the guilty use that to there advantage.  By hiding behind charm,money,power etc and there fans the real truth gets buried so most just decide eh screw it set it all on fire.   And then that just starts the whole friggin circus over again and again and again.

    I mean, there are multiple credible allegations of sexual assault, including by industry peers. That's plenty reason to make him persona non grata. It's a shame, but he's only got himself to blame.

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  6. It's worth noting here they actually mention investigating things themselves. So I think it's safe to say, at least wrt Texas VA accusations, it's 100% confirmed, though I always believed them. 
    Of course now people are demanding proof from Funi... but like... That's not yours to have. It's very rare a company will actively share the nitty gritty of HR problems with the public, I can think of no reason why they'd do so here just to appease people who'd probably scoff and give excuses for why Funimation's investigation's result was wrong. Either accept that they did their due diligence to investigate the actions a VA they've kept on this long in spite of, again, rumors circling for years, or just accept you're never going to believe Vic did anything wrong short of him admitting it.


    Yeah, while Monica Rial likely told them what happened to her, neither she nor Funi (nor any of the other three victims also alleging conduct more serious) owe us a damn thing. Unless there’s a court date involved, we may not hear further detail than we’ve got. At least not any time soon.

  7. 1 hour ago, GasparAKAShiggitay said:

    YES! Another Rez [Infinite] fan! Rez on PS2/DC was such a unique concept to me and I'm glad it's still getting some love from devs and fans alike to this day! It's even available for PC (on Steam I believe)!

    Yes. Rez HD was also put out some years back on 360, that was my first hands-on exposure to the series.

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  8. 1 hour ago, KyoKyo said:

    If there is evidence to support the rumors and accusations  then appropriate charges need to be filed. Until then it's mostly speculations and rumor. The flurry of information on social media seems to make things even more unclear.

    There's a big honking gap between a credible account and an indictment. He doesn't need to be in handcuffs for people to conclude he did these things or for him to suffer consequences like being disinvited from cons and recast in RWBY and at least one other show. There have been whispers about him for years. Even Monica Rial, a fellow voice actor, says she was on the receiving end. The difference is that now, people are listening.

    If I catch wind he's going to be in the dub of something I'd like to buy, I don't know about you, but I won't buy it. Or I won't go to a con that would invite him from now on. And I can't possibly be alone.

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  9. 1 hour ago, Something Clever said:

    I made my judgment based on the fact these rumors have been around vic since 2000 ish.  If he honestly cared he would have made a statement and changed his attitude way before the fact.  to say he was completely unaware is laughable but now that consequences are happening is when he suddenly starts the tearful apologies is what i call guilty to some degree.   He shouldnt be completely cast out from his primary source of income because i doubt hes rich enough to be unemployed for years.  he should lose some so at least that puts said behavior in check.  unless a far more serious crime becomes apparent with evidence.

    And this is long overdue in our community for so many reasons.  The sheer amount of horror stories from women are reason enough to treat every accusation as truth. all the times ive talked to any women i know who are active as cosplayers have a list of horror stories that could fuel a blog for years. the truly sad part is even non cosplayers have just as many stories of people pretending to professional photographers or some other lie to try to get them alone.

    burn it down and build it better is what we need to do for every aspect not just our culture.  The rot is too deep to expect minor actions to work at this point.

    I don't think there's a gradient available to those who would employ him. Funimation can't be like "OK, we'll recast his parts in this but not this." His co-stars won't be happy with that, and fans won't be happy with that.


  10. Thanks for sharing your perspective, Jim. It echoes what D.C. Douglas said the other day about reevaluating his own behavior, and what Adam Sheehan reflected on regarding what happened with Todd Haberkorn and his own responsibility.

    I think for me, I've come to my conclusions based on the specificity of the claims, the pattern revealed, Vic's own response and the reactions of his peers. You're not seeing these people coalesce around him. Rather, it's quite the opposite.

    I've seen the spreadsheet, and I'm ambivalent. It was used to go after Justin Sevakis based on somebody's grudge. However, it also allowed people to see Vic's name and a prominent fan's name and realize they weren't alone. If not for the spreadsheet, the whispers on him may still have been whispers. But I don't think ANN should take custody of the spreadsheet or anything like that because that's not the role of a news outlet. They would risk opening themselves up to liability.

    I think that however this all came to light, it's high time there was this kind of reckoning in the fandom, and time for a conversation about this behavior. It goes further than just saying the words "cosplay is not consent."


  11. 10 minutes ago, Something Clever said:

    well thats really good to hear and that apology is absolute bs.  i was afraid due to the nature of anime they would shrug this off due to him being a draw.  But really glad to see the predators running out of places to hide from the light.  as much fallout as this will cause i hope it starts a trend and we get as many of these people out in open.  especially since they wield a scary amount of power with young people in the anime scene.

    Inasmuch as his niche celebrity gives him power, he has allegedly abused it. I've also heard from con staffers--not necessarily at Otakon--that he's a bit of a pain to work with. Not going to go into details, since I don't want people to work backwards to figure out where these things happened.


  12. 54 minutes ago, Something Clever said:

    this isnt surprising at all every single culture,fandom etc has predators in it.  I remember hearing whispers and rumors 10+ years ago about vic.  I really hope some cons grow a pair and cancel his appearances.   i fully support clearing out the trash at cons to make it a safer environment for the future of our fandom.  and that is always a really messy business but if i have a daughter and she can cosplay without having to need me play security let it be as messy as it needs to be.

      

    In the last few days, he's been canceled by Anime NYC, Kameha Con UK, Raleigh Supercon, Florida Supercon, Rangerstop & Pop Con, Kameha Con, Kawaii Kon and Kami-Kon. Ancient City Con and Anime Milwaukee mutually agreed with Vic to cancel. He was at Bak-Anime over the weekend and it was super awkward. He made a crocodile-tear statement in his Edward Elric register. Anime Matsuri is the only upcoming con that hasn't canceled him, but the person running that con has his own problems, let's say.


  13. 12 hours ago, Tachibana said:

    My sibling and I had an awfully awkward encounter with Vic that while not nearly as bad as some of the accusations kind of definitely made me believe this stuff ever since I started hearing it. And given the stuff I've heard before this, and with especially scary stories like Jessie Pridemore's, I'm glad to see the anime community largely supporting those who have come forward, including a number of other voice actors either directly voicing support or showing support by liking those posts or the posts of people who have been harmed by Vic in some way. Like there's some pushback, particularly from the Gamergate-adjacent crowd or diehard Vic fans who could never believe such things, but largely it's not as bad as I think it could've been. 

    Like.... there's something like 100+ accusations or accounts, the vast majority coming from people unrelated to each other, the chances of them all or even mostly all being false is pretty low. So even if you've only had good experiences with him, keep that in mind.

    The unnamed actor in Pridemore's story named himself on Twitter--nobody asked him to do that--and an industry insider came forward with what he knew about that night. (I'd name both individuals, but I don't want to run afoul of the mods or something.) The public sphere is a terrible place to have complex discussions about consent and propriety, but it may be the only place where it'll happen in these cases. It's high time that we as congoers (broadly, not just Ota) talk about and expose bad behavior in our community.

    Vic has an army of sycophants. They've even taken the step of limiting access to his convention schedule... which anybody can see on animecons.com anyway. I think the onus on the rest of us to be the adults in the room. And speaking of adults, consensual or not, anybody who acts the way Vic does around girls and women young enough to be his daughter ought to raise red flags no matter what other stories are out there.

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