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The UN Wants to Ban Anime? Wut?

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Soooo apparently the UN (United Nations) wants to ban anime because many of the characters are depicted as under-aged... YouTuber Lost Pause made a video on this:
 
 
What do y'all think? Let's discuss this in a civil manner.

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Now what would banning this entail?  That's it's not allowed on UN property, or that any nation attached to the UN wouldn't be able to partake?

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Just now, KellyMae said:

Now what would banning this entail?  That's it's not allowed on UN property, or that any nation attached to the UN wouldn't be able to partake?

Yeah... The whole thing is so vague, that I doubt it'll pass into legislature... It doesn't state HOW it'll be banned, it doesn't state WHAT will happen if caught with the banned material, etc... It's quite BS.

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I mean, anime was a mistake...

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Right, first off: The intent of the proposed option is to ban creation, sale, or distribution of child pornography more solidly worldwide. The wording is such is that it would include toddlercon, lolicon or shotacon. The UN does not want to ban anime. If someone thinks anime is only lolicon or shotacon, then uh... hm... :/

It also likely won't pass. Previous attempts have been made in the UN to ban depictions of drawn or otherwise nonexistent minors in sexual situations, none of which were successful, leaving it to member countries to decide their laws on such things. So without amendment I'm not seeing it.

Second, let's not post clickbait videos as sources, eh? I tried to find any legitimate news source talking about it, but the only new site I could find was OneAngryGamer which is an alt-right cesspool of a site so I'm choosing to not link them. At any rate that they are the only news site talking about it should say a lot about how likely (or rather unlikely) it is that this is an actual issue. This won't effect almost any anime anyone here cares about if it does pass, and supposing you ARE into shotacon, lolicon, or toddlercon, it's highly unlikely it'll pass just like before. 

Basically, anime is fine as a whole, it might just be stuff that outright hardcore sexualizes prepubescent characters that gets banned. Which personally I'm okay with because it's creepy, but I understand if others aren't because free speech principles and such.

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Yep, there we go, thanks.

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"Child pornography is defined in article 2 OPSC as “any representation of a child engaged in real or simulated explicit sexual activities, regardless of the means used, or any representation of the sexual parts of a child for primarily sexual purposes”. The qualification “by whatever means” reflects the broad range of material available in a variety of media, online and offline. It includes, inter alia: visual material such as photographs, movies, drawings and cartoons; audio representations; any digital media representation; live performances; written materials in print or online; and physical objects such as sculptures, toys, or ornaments"

The bolded are probably what applies most to the anime/manga industry.

Except, thing is? The industry at large, outside of the hentai sector, doesn't really engage with sexually explicit material or material depicting child character genitals with the intent to arouse. 

Really, I can't see this effecting any mainstream anime or merch. Maybe a few hentai OVAs or doujinshi depicting kids in sexual situations, and in my personal opinion, good riddance to those.

This is of course, again, supposing this even passes. Previous attempts were made, none really passed. But either way it shouldn't effect the majority of us here.

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Yeah the only group I see getting hit hard by these DRAFT guidelines (if they ever get ratified) is the doujinshi industry. The only anime actually affected will be hentai anime with underage children being depicted. Any changes amongst broadcast products due to ratification will be made at the manga publisher / anime producer levels. IMHO Japanese Anime is not going to suffer greatly even if this draft guideline gets ratified.

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I'm not going to lie, I've seen wallscrolls in some dealer's rooms that honestly looked like they could pass for child porn, and its gross honestly. But targeting disturbing hentai stuff =/= "banning anime." 

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Kinda a sad statement on anime and in general when a law geared towards making it harder to provide legal pedophile porn or fanservice is viewed as a bad thing.  This is the go to response people have that makes so many things 100 times worse then they actually are.

For fricks sake jack the ripper from fate stay,harpy from monster musume, and so on and so on make me wish they dropped the hammer on anime when it comes to how they represent the 18 years old with quotation marks characters.

People forget anime is now mainstream has been for a while and certain things NEED to change whether people or like it or not.   As most have said this aint gonna do shite to the actual anime which i wish it would honestly.  Really makes us look bad but no people will always cry muh freedom or its a slippery slope because they dont want it to change.

Having a superpowered kid running around shooting laser beams or lifting a truck is fine.  Having them run around in panties and a low cut top is clearly not and i dont see the issue or cause for alarm when someone says hey maybe not do that?.

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